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Splatt
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a) The season. The increase of corona virus related infections - not THE current coronavirus, our epidemic culprit.

Except that simply isn't true. All the tests we use are multiple section primers and will not show positive for any other coronavirus.
Exposure to THIS virus is increasing.
b) Flu inoculation is a possibility
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3404712/

Again physically impossible due to the specific nature of the test.
Real life situation: worker gets a cold. She is told to get a test although she does not have THE symptoms, but the symptoms of a seasonal cold. She tests positive, because the test is sensitive.

Untrue. The test is sensitive to very specific sequences which are only present in the spike protein complex of SARs2. They will not test positive unless they have been exposed.

You're confusing a sensitive test for a non-specific test. PCR is both incredibly sensitive *and* with correct primer design, incredibly specific.

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MikeAustin
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My personal view is we're misusing PCR (its supposed to be a confirmatory diagnostic so combined with a clinical diagnosis, ie symptoms NOT as a single point test and not for mass testing).

Then that is all we need to agree on in the present situation. I don't think anyone is denying the uses of a spanner that fits other nuts but is ill-fitting for the one that needs shifting.

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Marta
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Splat, you make statements with an alarming certainty.
Viruses do mutate and recombine, and differences are hard to spot.
Perhaps you could have a read:
https://royalsociety.org/-/media/policy/projects/set-c/set-c-genome-analysis.pdf

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Splatt
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Splat, you make statements with an alarming certainty.
Viruses do mutate and recombine, and differences are hard to spot.
Perhaps you could have a read:
https://royalsociety.org/-/media/policy/projects/set-c/set-c-genome-analysis.pdf

Im fully aware viruses mutate and change which is why im fully aware this particular virus is one of the most stable we've ever seen. Especially for an RNA virus.

I make the statements based on formal training and understanding in the field.

Functional mutations are essentially zero with an average difference of only a handful of base pairs between each lineage, all non-functional.

The differences are NOT hard to spot - GenBank and so on have all the fully sequenced data for 1000s of lineages with many more added this week. Its a 5 minute just to see differences these days.

All of this hints by the time it was detected it was already adapted to the human host so either around for longer than thought OR the result of a gain of function or similar lab escape. Most likely the former.

Once the vaccines role out it will for the first time be subject to selection pressure, especially on the spike protein so it'll be interesting to see what happens then.

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