Too add some balance, Yeardon is one person.
He talks a lot of sense but his view is not the "only" opinion on the subject.
By only accepting that at the expense as all others its as bad as SAGE for the opposition team.
A lot of things he says are sensible, some of them are debatable. Just like most others.
Only listening to or reading one side of the argument doesn't further understanding at all.
It appears you are a fully paid up member of SAGE, in which case why are you on here? To sow discontent?
Of course he's not! To challenge the false arguments put forward by SAGE, you have to understand them. That entails viewing them from SAGE's side. Only with understanding of your opponents and all the arguments they may put forward, will you be able to defeat them. Otherwise all you have will be incommunicable dogma.
It is like the saying, "Keep your friends close - but keep your enemies closer."
To challenge the false arguments put forward by SAGE, you have to understand them. That entails viewing them from SAGE's side. Only with understanding of your opponents and all the arguments they may put forward, will you be able to defeat them. Otherwise all you have will be incommunicable dogma.
Why defend the liars of sage? Let's remind ourselves of the key points...
Cases, admissions, people in ICU and deaths all pivot of the PCR test, therefore the numbers of cases, admissions, people in ICU and deaths are completely UNRELIABLE.
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To challenge the false arguments put forward by SAGE, you have to understand them. That entails viewing them from SAGE's side. Only with understanding of your opponents and all the arguments they may put forward, will you be able to defeat them. Otherwise all you have will be incommunicable dogma.
Why defend the liars of sage? Let's remind ourselves of some key points...
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It appears you are a fully paid up member of SAGE, in which case why are you on here? To sow discontent?
...and this neatly sums up the problem with some of the nutjobs here. Everything is binary, one way or the other and absolutely no other viewpoint will be tolerated.
You've decided what you want to believe and will only every consider anyone saying exactly what you want to hear.
A few things for starters - claiming there is no evidence Covid-19 is rising. That isnt actually true.
PCR measures exposure. Exposure is going up. No other variables have been changed at all since summer and we're recording more exposure. The disease is going up (and no, its not just more testing, that rise is far above the tests performed area).
- UK has not reached herd immunity. Cases are going up and like it or not, some people are dying. More people are dying *with* it than before. More people are being exposed.
We aren't seeing a flattening off of cases yet. Maybe some pockets are approaching equilibrium (london etc) but others certainly are not.
- Viruses do come in waves, there are plenty of examples.
He talks some sense but also other things that are far more debatable. Your problem is you completely refuse to entertain anything that conflicts with your pre-conceived view.
You'll be shocked to find out that there are highly qualified people speaking from BOTH sides of the argument.....
Projection?
It appears you are a fully paid up member of SAGE, in which case why are you on here? To sow discontent?
...and this neatly sums up the problem with some of the nutjobs here. Everything is binary, one way or the other and absolutely no other viewpoint will be tolerated.
You've decided what you want to believe and will only every consider anyone saying exactly what you want to hear.
A few things for starters - claiming there is no evidence Covid-19 is rising. That isnt actually true.
PCR measures exposure. Exposure is going up. No other variables have been changed at all since summer and we're recording more exposure. The disease is going up (and no, its not just more testing, that rise is far above the tests performed area).
- UK has not reached herd immunity. Cases are going up and like it or not, some people are dying. More people are dying *with* it than before. More people are being exposed.
We aren't seeing a flattening off of cases yet. Maybe some pockets are approaching equilibrium (london etc) but others certainly are not.
- Viruses do come in waves, there are plenty of examples.
He talks some sense but also other things that are far more debatable. Your problem is you completely refuse to entertain anything that conflicts with your pre-conceived view.
You'll be shocked to find out that there are highly qualified people speaking from BOTH sides of the argument.....
