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IamRipe
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Legaly I'm not sure. Maybe just under privacy act as you mentioned.
But I have something else in mind. Maybe you can ask your employer to provide evidence, that tests are actually working or that their results are valid at all because so far there is no evidence for it, and the evidence that there is clearly shows, that these tests are a joke and not a valid test. Plenty of info about this here, some of them with very accredited sources AND THEREFORE, because of all this evidence proving that tests are less than unreliable you asking your employer to reconsider participation or possible withdraw from the test & trace.

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Skeptical_Stu
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Legaly I'm not sure. Maybe just under privacy act as you mentioned.
But I have something else in mind. Maybe you can ask your employer to provide evidence, that tests are actually working or that their results are valid at all because so far there is no evidence for it, and the evidence that there is clearly shows, that these tests are a joke and not a valid test. Plenty of info about this here, some of them with very accredited sources AND THEREFORE, because of all this evidence proving that tests are less than unreliable you asking your employer to reconsider participation or possible withdraw from the test & trace.

Thank you for your reply, though I have covered much of that in my first email. And I have asked my employer to consider withdrawing based on potential hit on trade alone, among a host of other reasons.

I have yet to receive nothing back in writing, only a verbal response in which I was informed that my employer's goal is to do what is required to stay trading and get through to the other end of this Covid nightmare.

As of now, my employer believes that not participating will see them fined £10,000 and then shut-down for a repeat offence. So they are not going to budge on their participation. If there is a legal way they can refuse and still trade I would love to hear it.

So with that said, I am asking from a personal point of view. I won't be complying with this madness. So if anyone has any idea if I can legally refuse, and on what grounds, without jeopardising my employer's licence, that would be great. I know it may come down to me having to choose between bending the knee, which will psychologically destroy me. Or refuse and probably lose my job. Which I will fight to a tribunal, as I believe doing this goes way beyond my terms and conditions as an employee.

If there are any legal eagles on the forum who could advice, will very much have my gratitude 🙂

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IWantFreedomBack
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Sadly not a legal to help you with that problem. Best of luck. Businesses and organisations are being frightened into this and its all just a ruse to make the numbers downloading look good.

Hope Toby is reading this and can raise a stink as he does so well.

Every single activity we do now requires this app. Kids football, Kids swimming lessons, going to the bookies, going to the pub, going to a cafe, getting a book from the library. There is nothing optional about it.

Surely not long until its compulsory for public transport or to enter a food shop.

We are being coerced into a Chinese style socially controlled state with no oversight or vote.

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IamRipe
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Definitely investigate the fine if this would be true in a case your employer will refuse to participate and if yes, if it's possible to appeal and if yes, if your employer would be willing to go through this as not everyone is keen to go to the court. But when it comes down to your person I found some legal stuff. Have a look:

https://www.laworfiction.com/2020/07/time-to-blow-the-whistle-on-shops/

Hope it helps a bit and maybe somebody else might do help as well. If not, maybe try to get in touch with the lawyers from this court case as they on it like a carbon bonnet:

https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/the-coronavirus-act-2020/

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Jane G
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This surprises me. The thing only came out today - how can clubs and businesses possibly insist on the use of the NHS app when relatively few have a phone new enough to run it? My phone isn't that old but I get the app (not that I want it).

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