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Minsters of Health are been systematically replaced - who’s really in charge?

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Nobody seems to be reporting on this yet, but the Ministers of Health in England, Scotland, and Wales were all suddenly replaced in June and May 2021. These are unelected technocrats without a background in health or science and with ties to supranational organisations. This needs to be investigated. Why were the people responsible for these policies replaced in the middle of a crisis within weeks of each other? Why are they now pursuing the same radical policies? What is the justifications? Who are they talking to? 

They are clearly coordinating the implementation of radical, illiberal, inhumane policies, including vaccine passports and vaccines for teenagers. This is happening all over the world. These people need to be stopped and hauled before an international court. 

Scotland - Humza Yousef replaced Jeanne Freeman 20 May, 2021

Wales - Eluned Morgan replaced Vaughan Gething 13 May, 2021

England - Sajid Javid replaced Matt Hancock 26 June 2021

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Posted by: @wildplant

Nobody seems to be reporting on this yet, but the Ministers of Health in England, Scotland, and Wales were all suddenly replaced in June and May 2021. These are unelected technocrats without a background in health or science and with ties to supranational organisations. This needs to be investigated. Why were the people responsible for these policies replaced in the middle of a crisis within weeks of each other? Why are they now pursuing the same radical policies? What is the justifications? Who are they talking to? 

They are clearly coordinating the implementation of radical, illiberal, inhumane policies, including vaccine passports and vaccines for teenagers. This is happening all over the world. These people need to be stopped and hauled before an international court. 

Scotland - Humza Yousef replaced Jeanne Freeman 20 May, 2021

Wales - Eluned Morgan replaced Vaughan Gething 13 May, 2021

England - Sajid Javid replaced Matt Hancock 26 June 2021

Jeane Freeman is resigning as an MSP, Matt Hancock was having an affair with gis own advisor and breaking social distancing,  There are valid reasons for gethhing's move ( see his wiki page) so you are spreading paranoid lies.

 

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@ewloe I'm sorry, what "lie" did I tell? I'm pointing out a pattern and asking questions about it. Of course there are "valid" reasons. Here's a question - how was that video footage was acquired? And why now? The "whistleblower" that leaked the video also reported that Hancock's affair was well known. Why was it suddenly so important to alert the public? It's worth remembering what was happening at the time. Matt Hancock was facing increasing scrutiny related to his nursing home policy. And now he's not.

Incidently, the same thing happened in New York with Governor Cuomo. Cuomo pursued a similar policy, which included sending sick people from the hospital to nursing homes and locking down nursing homes. It has ssince come out that Cuomo had quietly made a deal with the nursing home industry, granting them legal indemnity for any negative consequences of these policies. A Joint Commission on Public Ehtics (JCOPE) had been convened to investigate whether or not Cuomo's orders had raised the death toll in state care homes And then what happens? Cuomo is suddenly embroiled in a sexual harassment scandel and resigns, avoiding accountability. His successor Kathy Hochul preceded to make two new appointments to the JCOPE, which then voted to drop the investigation in a 7-6 vote.

Jeane Freeman, the former health secretary of Scotland was facing similar charges. Gary Smith, Scotland secretary of the GMB, said her policy turned “care homes into morgues.” Those questions have all conveniently disappeared as well.

We should be asking questions about these kinds of patterns given the clear coordination of these policies at a global scale. I can't for the life of me understand why people just repeat what the media tells them. We are right to be demanding answers from these people.

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@ewloe Hancock's affair ...Governor Cuomo.

You started out grumbling that nobody was reporting the events, now you are grumbling that whistleblowers are reporting the events!

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@wildplant you are surpriingly ignorant, the average tenure of a minister is 1.3 years, if anything it is surprising hancock Freeman and Gething lasted as long as they did. Here'e an article on churn: https://www.demos.co.uk/files/Ministerial_Churn.pdf

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@ewloe I'm not sure what a 10 year old report, which uses even older data from 2007 and only includes 8 departments in their sample (there are 23), has to do with the specific pattern of Health Minister turnover in 2021. All three ministers had been in their position for varying lengths of time (3-5 years) and then suddenly "forced to resign" under public pressure – all for different reasons, but all politically convenient. And all three were replaced by individuals that are embedded in a distinct type of social network, that is one embedded in global institutions and agendas.

More specifically, Sajid Javid is part of the cabal of bankers that brought down the global economy in 2008-09. Incidentally, 2009 was also the year he quietly exited his 18-year banking career to become a politician. Further, Javid didn't work at just any old bank. He worked for two of the most criminal financial institutions in the world, first as a VP for Chase Manhattan and then as managing director at Deutsche Bank. He should probably be in jail, but instead I guess he's running health policy for Britian during a global pandemic. Not sure how that doesn't raise any eyebrows. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sajid_Javid)

Humza Yousaf, meanwhile, had a similarly meteoric career in politics, serving as a Parliamentary assistant to a number of prominent politicians including Bashir Ahmed, Nicola Sturgeon, and Alex Salmond. And signficantly Yousaf took part in the International Visitor Leadership Program, a "professional exchange" founded by Norman Rockerfeller in the 1940s to "promote a better understanding of the United States in other countries." That's US government code for CIA propaganda training program. Their list of alumni is interesting to say the least. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Visitor_Leadership_Program)

And, finally, Eluned Morgan was a member of the European Parliament for 15 years after which she became the National Director of the main energy supplier in Wales (SWALEC). During this time her main project was the establishment of the SWALEC Smart Energy Centre in Treforest, which digitizes our energy consumption. Funny that she's now pushing a policy that digitizes our health records as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eluned_Morgan,_Baroness_Morgan_of_Ely

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@ewloe I'm not making any claims. I'm just pointing out a pattern I think we should all be curious about given the radical nature of the health policies they are all pushing through (in lockstep with government officials around the world). At this point it's obvious that these policies are not about health. I don't see what's wrong with questioning what the real agenda. Nor do I see harm in pointing out an emerging structure of power that puts health experts rather than legislatures in charge. Especially since none of these folks seem to be health experts.

This is a time for vigilance. I really don't get the giggly dismissal of Matt Hancock's timely exit just because you saw a video of him kissing his aide. I mean who cares? It's almost like you don't realize that was all staged and are still falling for pretty obvious propaganda (which is designed to distract you from his very real potential crimes and to trivialize serious policy issues). I'm pretty tired of all the BS.

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@wildplant did you think that Hancock or Gething were satisfactory as ministers and hence were you so surprised/stunned when they were chopped that is could only be explained by a global conspiracy theory, had you not stopped to consider that they were both shite and well overdue for sacking?

 

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@ewloe I'm sorry, but what global conspiracy are you talking about? Why don't you just saw what you mean instead of throwing around the "conspiracy theory" smear? That is just an intellectually lazy way to not engage in the conversation. 

If this had happened during normal times I wouldn't notice at all. In normal times I could have cared less about the merry-go-round of political clowns in ministerial positions. But it's not normal times in case you haven't noticed. The government is about to start injecting teenagers with an experiment drug and our individual freedoms are being stripped from us expeditiously. Even more incredible is the global coordination of these measures as the exact same pattern of policies are being roled out in dozens of countries. I'd kind of like to know why, don't you? You don't think this is all a bit strange at least? Or maybe you are happy for your participation in society to be conditioned based on your medical history and think domestic, digital ID cards would be cool. Laugh it off as much as you want but I'm not going down like that. And why you are still using a pre-2020 cognitive map to assess current political events is beyond me. 

 

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 we know why Matt Hancock had to go.

 

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It’s just like many other departments, such as the DfT. No shortage of people like “failing Grayling” - remember him? The old comedy show “Yes, Minister” was pretty close to the bone, and in the real world it’s the “permanent secretaries” that manipulate policy, to a large extent. Similar in local government, too. Jobs like the Borough Solicitor, and so on.

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@johnk I didn't understand half of that, but you know this isn't actually a comedy show right? And that those shows are designed to disarm the public and condition them to trivialize serious political issues and events. I'm happy to laugh at these clowns. I feel like I'm in an endless episode of the The Thick of It most of the time, but there's evidence that this guy systematically euthanized hundreds of elderly people. He's just kind of gross to me.

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