When I look at the original data from Israel, I am becoming more and more suspicious about the effectiveness of the vaccine. About 80% of the high risk groups have received the second dose of the vaccine, but the amount of critical cases stays constant.
How is this possible, if the vaccine has a effficacy of over 90% ? Israel officials blame the mutation. Supposedly, there is a huge surge in new infections in the unvaccinated group because of the mutation. And this in spite of the fact that there is one of the world's most strictest lockdowns in place since the end of december. Coincidentally, the experts say this rise of infections exactly compensates the positive effect of the vaccine.
This argument doesn't sound plausible to me. Even if cases really soared because of the mutation, the ICU cases should have gone down by now significantly (if the vaccine really works), as almost all people with high risk have been fully vaccinated. What do you think?
Vaccine protection takes 2-3 weeks to kick in at all after dose 1 and 2 weeks after dose 2 for the maximum protection for the Pfizer jab they're using.
There's generally a lag of 3 weeks for *new* critical people to appear after any action.
Also a lot of people critical NOW have been there a long time - people are living longer with it.
So there simply hasn't been enough time to show a reduction there post vaccination yet, you're looking at 5-6 weeks minimum before you'd expect to see any change at all.
What is clearly decreasing are new daily cases and the tell tale sign the vaccination is helping that rather than just lockdown is the decrease is fastest in the over 60s (first vaccinated group).
Vaccine protection takes 2-3 weeks to kick in at all after dose 1 and 2 weeks after dose 2 for the maximum protection for the Pfizer jab they're using.
It has been mentioned in a few places (e.g. ukcolumn.org who interviewed an NHS guy) that the Pfizer-Biontec jab depresses the immune system for the first week. There are reports of deaths among elderly recipients soon after this vaccine as they become particularly vulnerable. It seems that a week's quarantine is necessary for them. The vaccine does not kill them but exposes them.
Vaccine protection takes 2-3 weeks to kick in at all after dose 1 and 2 weeks after dose 2 for the maximum protection for the Pfizer jab they're using.
It has been mentioned in a few places (e.g. ukcolumn.org who interviewed an NHS guy) that the Pfizer-Biontec jab depresses the immune system for the first week. There are reports of deaths among elderly recipients soon after this vaccine as they become particularly vulnerable. It seems that a week's quarantine is necessary for them. The vaccine does not kill them but exposes them.
Really...an NHS guy? If it’s not true it’s odd this didn’t show up in the trials...and it’s odd it’s being kept secrete. Simpler explanation is the claim isn’t true.
It has been mentioned in a few places (e.g. ukcolumn.org who interviewed an NHS guy) that the Pfizer-Biontec jab depresses the immune system for the first week. There are reports of deaths among elderly recipients soon after this vaccine as they become particularly vulnerable. It seems that a week's quarantine is necessary for them. The vaccine does not kill them but exposes them.
If that were true it would have cropped up in Phase 1 trials (yet alone 2 or 3) and theres nothing at all to suggest it did.
There *is* an increased risk vaccinating elderly as even the mild side effects people can get can turn out to be more severe in the elderly but thats true for all vaccinations.
No data anywhere suggest Pfizer is worse or does as "Anonymous NHS Guy" says. Unsubstantiated claims need to be treated as false unless there's data backing them up.
