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One thing I have noticed, at least in the US, is just how many HIV hucksters are part of the current public health establishment. Starting with Fauci it goes all the way down to the state, city and county level. Not sure if its this bad in the UK. When you start looking at the academic and scholarly background of senior members of the public health establishment in the US the fact that just so many of the people in the pubic health infrastructure are HIV guys starts looking very strange.

This is after all a disease (AIDS) were well over 95% population have zero probability of developing and where 90% plus of the people who are diagnosed with AIDS have engaged in recklessly dangerous behavior. Its a lifestyle disease of the intentionally reckless and the irresponsibly stupid mostly. This is not something like Lyme disease,. Something you can catch inadvertently. You have to work very hard to catch it. Very hard indeed.

For those of you who were old enough back in the 1980s’ and where paying close attention you will remember that when AIDS first hit the headlines it was played as new killer disease that would infect huge numbers of people in the general population and was going to kill millions. At the time it was ramping up I lived in San Francisco so got to see it all first hand, and more importantly hear dissenting opinions and hear the often unflattering backstories. All soon pretty much suppressed by the early 1990’s.

At the time, late 1980’s, a leading molecular biologist from Berkeley named Peter Duesberg was interviewed on a local radio station on several occasions. Duesberg was a world authority on retro-viruses and he talked in a very reasonable tone about just how unproven most of the actual science around AIDS was at the time. This is when the retrovirus HTLV III was first proposed as the cause of AIDS. Duesberg always made a very reasonable case for more scientific evidence. More irrefutable research. The last time I heard him interviewed it was as part of a debate with various AIDS activists and I remember thinking afterwards, those people will try to destroy Duesbergs professional career. They were so rabid in their personal denunciations of him. Which is pretty much what happened afterwards. Duesberg had tenure at UC Berkeley so could not be fired but his academic career was pretty much over afterwards. You would see around in Berkeley cafes working away but his very illustrious career up till till then was now ended. Because of the politics. Which worked very hard to suppressed the actual science as so much money was now involved. The Gallo / Pasteur Institute lawsuit being just one example.

Pretty much all the points Dueseberg and other HIV cause skeptic bough up in the 1980’s are still valid, open and unproven today. At least when compared with other important infectious diseases after many decades of very intense research. Here is a reasonably good summary paper of the subject. Published a few years ago.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4172096/

Even after almost 40 year and well over $40 billion in research money not a lot has changed in the actual scientific evidence. Still lots of hand-waving, scientifically speaking, on the retro-virus cause hypothesis and related subjects.

One thing Duesberg said in one of those radio interview (in 1989) really stuck in my memory. Duesberg said that if he was correct, and AIDS was mostly an environment related syndrome (i.e illegal drug related etc) then it would not break out of its current demographics (gay men / IV drug users) into the general population. If he was incorrect, and it was a viral agent related syndrome - the HTLV III retrovirus, then AIDS would eventually break out into at least one or more segments of the general population not related to the gay men / IV drug users. The HTLV III retrovirus cause proponents were all predicting at the time that AIDS would in time became a general population infection and cause very large numbers of deaths in the general population. Running to the hundreds of thousands if not millions.

Well in the last 30 years the AIDS demographics in the US and Western Europe has stayed exactly the same. Almost all Gay / bi men, IV drugs users and a small number of women who had direct interaction with infected bi men. That's it. Apart from those in the general population exposed to tainted blood products in the 1980s and 1990’s the disease never expanded outside the two groups it first appeared in back in the early 1980’s.

So Dusebregs prediction, based on very sound epidemiological science, proved correct and the predication of the HTLV III (HIV) proponents was not borne out by later developments.

You can read Duesbergs version of the story here.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inventing-AIDS-Virus-Peter-Duesberg/dp/0895264706

Now the interesting thing about this story is that unless you were around at the time and paid attention pretty much everyone reading this posting would think - Of course HIV causes AIDs and anyone thinking otherwise must be some kind of conspiracy nut case. That's how complete the control of the AIDS narrative has been. To actually point out the weakness of the scientific evince for the HIV cause hypothesis (elaborated in the paper above) is to be immediately thought of as some kind of complete loony by the vast majority of the population. Yet that's the actual science. Still very much unproven and very much incomplete.

One thing about living in San Francisco at the time is that I heard a lot of very unflattering information that the AIDS activists (ACT UP etc) tried very hard to suppress. Because it destroyed the narrative that AIDS was a huge risk to the general population. Like the fact that the median number of unprotected sexual partners for AIDs patents in SF General at the time was around 140. Regular users of gay bath houses. Or the median number of other IV users an IV drug user AIDS patient had shared a needle with. About 12. In other words you had to be criminally irresponsibly to end up seriously ill. So when I saw one of the AZT zombies shuffling around the Castro, there used to be quite a few of them after the Great Dying in the early 90’s I really did not have that much sympathy for them as I knew exactly how pretty much all them ended up way that. It wasn't bad luck it was totally self inflicted. You had to work hard over a sustained period of time to end up like that. End up that sick.

That's the actual risk group for AIDS. And risk behavior. And always has been. The risk to normal people in the general population has always been zero. Zero. Yet that has not been the hype or the narrative over the last 35 years. Quite the opposite.

I am recounting this story because the whole suppression of alternative SARs Cov2 opinions, scientific and otherwise, has happened before. And with much much lower political stakes the last time around. The last time, with AIDS, it was a very powerful special interest group flexing its recently acquired political muscle. Then the big money interests kicked in. This time around it is a whole political and medical bureaucratic class fighting to hold onto their power, prestige and often research grants.

Duseberg was a world class scientist who basically wrote the textbook on retroviruses. He only asked that actual science be done and yet he was destroyed professionally. Just read the very slickly constructed calumny done against him on his wiki page. A very sophisticated professional hit job. This is what they do to first rate scientists who dare go up against powerful political interests. No great conspiracy involved. This is just how politics works when special interest political stakes are so high. The politics of the activists combined with the career politics of the Gallos, Faucis etc of the world. Plus huge amount of money running to tens of billions of dollars.

That's what we are up against in trying to get the true facts about SARs CoV 2 out into wider circulation. The real problem is not so much governments (or big pharma) it is the Fauci, Fergusons etc of the world. The utterly ruthless unrelentingly ambitious careerists in the public health infrastructure and civil service who will stop at nothing to protect their career, their power and their public image. Very dangerous charlatans one and all.

That's who runs public health policy at the moment. Dangerous charlatans. Most of who have a long track record of scientific and professional mendacity going back many decades. With the HIV story.

Just to reiterate, AIDS is very real, I saw plenty of people die with it in the Castro in the late '80's to mid 90's. Its the evidence for the HIV cause of AIDS where the scientific evidence is still very much unproven. The story of the suppression of that point and the people responsible for that suppression is what is very relevant to the current SARs CoV2 situation.

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The late, lamented Nobel-Prize winner Kary Mullis (yes, the man who invented PCR) was an outspoken HIV-AIDS sceptic, and wanted to debate Fauci about HIV and AIDS on national television. He had some choice words about Fauci. 😉

There was an interesting documentary made about Fauci and HIV-AIDS: Fauci's First Fraud.

Sadly Mullis died last year: had he lived, he'd've surely exposed the PCR testing scam and torn the COVID narrative to shreds.

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