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MyHomeIsMyCastle
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This is the first time I've ever seen anything in the media other than on sites like this one that acknowledges false positives are an issue:

http://www.mywelshpool.co.uk/viewernews/ArticleId/19498/fbclid/IwAR0xnAussXIaIN_rNvNcbiQLEr1IXcUHPOT0d2raYQ46j7wn6pCjJTuB3uQ

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MikeAustin
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This is the first time I've ever seen anything in the media other than on sites like this one that acknowledges false positives are an issue:

http://www.mywelshpool.co.uk/viewernews/ArticleId/19498/fbclid/IwAR0xnAussXIaIN_rNvNcbiQLEr1IXcUHPOT0d2raYQ46j7wn6pCjJTuB3uQ

Well-spotted! And the 8% is about right at the moment (I have 7%).
Patrick Vallance was saying today that the test and trace works better with a lower prevalence. 😮
It is low prevalence where the PCR fails due to the false positives having proportionately more of an influence!

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MyHomeIsMyCastle
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Well-spotted!

It's my neck of the woods. 🙂

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huxleypiggles
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It appears that this press article was written by someone who has no understanding of False Positives and discussed by the people in charge as though only a minor issue.

Mike Yeadon, Carl Heneghan and others have clearly shown that a false positive of 1% means that the WHOLE testing system is flawed and therefore of no use.

Not a crack then just bloody stupid officials.

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MyHomeIsMyCastle
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It appears that this press article was written by someone who has no understanding of False Positives

Yeah, I get that the writer and all the people quoted in it haven't got a bloody clue, but at least the guy quoted accepts false positives are a "thing".

I am going to write to him.

I need an "idiot's guide" - so many people seem to think the FPR means the number of positive results you get that are false, and therefore aren't too concerned, because they think an FPR of 1% would mean if you tested 100 people, 99 would be true positives and 1 would be false, which wouldn't be a big deal.

Could somebody point me in the direction of a suitable source (or create one) - level pitched at, say, a bright 5-year-old, then there's a chance that a council official might understand it!

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