There has been a Covid outbreak in a Spanish nursing home 10 days(!) after the second injection. All 34 residents and the whole staff got the second injection on january 19. On january 29, the first case was detected. 17 of the 34 residents and 5 members of the staff tested positive for Covid, 16 were hospitalised, 1 died.
Your thoughts?
So 3 weeks for useful protection to emerge.
Incubation period 5-10 days.
Not enough time for vaccines to be that useful.
And again, we have no data to suggest *any* vaccine prevents infections or transmission. They reduce symptoms.
If you're fully vaccinated you can still catch it. That isnt the point of these vaccines. Most vaccines dont stop you catching the disease.
I didn't see which vaccine they had in the article. But it certainly looks like whatever they were given, it didn't work.
I didn't see which vaccine they had in the article. But it certainly looks like whatever they were given, it didn't work.
As it happened in Spain, it must have been Pfizer or Moderna. Supposedly, those vaccines are 50% effective two weeks after the first injection, 90% from day one after the second injection and 93-95% one or two weeks after the second injection. In the results presented by those pharmaceutical companies, a "Covid-19 case" was defined as having a positive PCR-Test and at least two symptoms. 23 of the 24 reported cases in the Spanish nursing home fulfilled these criteria.
Such an outbreak should not have been possible, if the reported efficiencies are valid.
Of course, it could be possible that the actual protections emerges only some weeks after the second jab. But this is not how it was communicated by the companies. That's pure speculation.
Why are you assuming the vaccines prevent infection or transmission?
We have no data to suggest they do that.
You can still catch it, still pass it on, you get less sick from it.
That Spanish data looks to back that up - mortalities lower than expected from infected groups.
Conclusion:- vaccine doing its job.
